We All Fam (w/ Ilana Glazer)

This week we are pleased to be joined by the amazing actor, comedian, and activist, Ilana Glazer.

As a co-founder of Generator Collective (alongside our very own co-host, Glennis Meagher), Ilana talks about making politics fun and accessible through entertaining videos, civic engagement opportunities, and even dance parties.

We talk about Generator's work, viral audio from Glazer's hit series Broad City making a resurgence, and the 2024 election (which is officially less than 2 weeks away). 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 0:38 Welcome Ilana Glazer
• 0:56 Round Robin Vibe Check
• 7:39 In Da Clerb
• 10:41 Generator Collective
• 17:38 Gender Gap in 2024 Election
• 29:51 GROUP CHAT
• 37:54 Good Vibe Goodbye

Transcript

Brian Derrick: [00:00:00] No Arnold Palmers. No polling updates. Just vibes. This is Vibes Only, the podcast that checks the vibes of American politics every week. 

Glennis Meagher: And here to check the vibes with us this week is actor, comedian, activist, and my friend and co founder at Generator Collective, Alana Glazer. 

Brian Derrick: We'll talk with Alana about how Generator makes politics fun and accessible, and of course, how we're all feeling with less than two weeks to go.

Oh my god. 

Glennis Meagher: We'll also talk a little bit about how each campaign is navigating what's expected to be a historic gender gap in this election. 

Brian Derrick: Then we're going to pull up our group chat and leave you with a good vibe. Let's get into it.

Scream!

Screaming! Okay, we have an icon, a legend, a hero of democracy and our movement with us today. Ilana Glazer, how you feeling? 

Ilana Glazer: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling, um, well, I'm grateful for [00:01:00] the weather. And that's why I am recording outside. I'm feeling I'm feeling, um, pretty anxious.

It's like an up and down and it's like weird how we are one love, we are one organism. You can genuinely feel the vibe, you know, you can genuinely feel the energy of the organism of like how the planet's feeling, how the country's feeling. And it's like, it is nervy out here. It is nervy. It's scary. I'm scared.

I'm feeling scared. I'm feeling good in my personal life. Scared at large. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah, I feel like we all have a you have like slightly different vantage points, whether it's online or how we're spending our time these days. Glenys, you just came back from another swing state visit. I did. 

Glennis Meagher: I did Raleigh. I was in Raleigh, Durham.

Raleigh, Durham, North Carolina. I'm still cautiously optimistic. Which I know it's just the Politico talking [00:02:00] point. I was on North Carolina State campus on Friday and I talked to a lot of students, which I also kind of like feel weird about 'cause I, I just assume I look 21, you know? That's crazy.

Ilana Glazer: 40 is like chu and we're 40. Like, it's like it's right there and it's great. Like 40 is like young, but it's like. You're not a fucking college student. You're a ma'am. Yeah. And I'm still a miss. I'm still a miss. Okay. Sorry. I am. I'm a ma'am. Um, I don't know what the jufro does, but somehow I'm like 16 to 20 year olds.

You know what I mean? So, okay. You're a miss. You're a miss. Cause you're like, hello. You're like, you're swinging behind your head. 

Glennis Meagher: Do you have a voting plan? But I was curious, like a lot of people were like, yep, I already voted. I voted early. I voted for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. And then some people were like, I'm not telling you who I voted for.

And I'm like, well, I know the answer there. Yeah. 

Brian Derrick: I don't know. Some people are really weird about it. Even when you're like, otherwise Vibey, I do sometimes get people. [00:03:00] That just have a thing about their vote being a secret that I don't always assume. I don't always assume that it means it's a Trump vote.

Ilana Glazer: Well, that's good of you. I do. They're like, it's my right. It's my right. And it's my vote. And it's my right. Or like, whatever. You know what I mean? I don't know. I'm like, North Carolina. I'm like, it is. But like, 

Glennis Meagher: just let me know. Just tell me. 

Brian Derrick: Just 

Glennis Meagher: fucking tell me. Ryan, how are you feeling? 

Brian Derrick: Okay. I did a whole thing on Instagram about there being concerning signs coming out of Nevada.

And so that's giving me a little bit extra angst at the moment, where if you just look at who's returned their ballots so far and vote by mail or through early in person voting in Nevada, at time of recording, Republicans have a slight lead in that, which is very unusual and that's creating some tension over here, but I will say that if, I was putting money on it like it were a game, like I was betting, I would be betting on Kamala Harris.

I would rather be her than him, [00:04:00] given the current data that we have access to. You have to remember that she can win with just money. Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Like she can lose Nevada and still be president. She can lose Arizona and still be president. She can lose Georgia and still be president.

She can lose North Carolina and still be president. We don't have to win everything. I hope she wins all of those and I'm not giving up on any of them because I'm gonna get yelled at for saying that I'm not giving up on any of those states. Let's win them all 100%. And I'm telling you We don't have to win every single state for her to be elected.

Glennis Meagher: Was I spreading fake news in North Carolina? Cause I was telling people that Trump really does need to win North Carolina. Like if he doesn't win North Carolina, his path is like not good. A 

Brian Derrick: hundred percent. That's a hundred percent accurate. And I think that that really messes with people's minds.

Because we sort of think about the tipping point for him and tipping point for her differently sometimes. 

Ilana Glazer: That's good news because the Mark Robinson troll villain character is so motivating. Like he's just so bonkers and like [00:05:00] offensive to Every single type of person, every race, religion, gender identity, that he's motivating.

So, I actually didn't know this. It's more like, um, gosh, I didn't play enough board games when I was a kid. But it's not like You know, it's like almost like I'm like thinking of like mousetrap or something, or it's like a Rube Goldberg machine where it's like this one. And then this one, it's not really like, you have to win three swing States to not win this.

Like, I'm surprised to hear you say if he doesn't win North Carolina, it's unlikely he wins. Period. 

Brian Derrick: I think that the easiest way to think about it are probably dominoes, but each of them are starting from a different side of the dominoes, and they want all the dominoes to fall in the direction that they're pushing.

It would be very surprising and unusual for her to win North Carolina and lose in all of those other places. Like, that would be a huge anomaly. 

Ilana Glazer: You encouraged me to vibe out, so I'm going to. This is the [00:06:00] third Domino's reference and visualization that I'm experiencing in a week. Um, first of all, Mr.

Rogers, you should meet me as well. Mr. Rogers, like, had this epic fuckin Domino's episode. He, like, went to this, like, nerdy white guy at a music shop, and it was, like, considered an instrument back in the early 80s. Um, it was crazy. It was, like, a thousand Domino's, this, like, total dork lined up. And it was like really impressive, but it was also like, oh my god, dude, like how long did this take you?

And then there's this like pretty bad and good animated movie called Robots, starring Robin Williams from 2004. And like one of the big set pieces was like a monsoon of dominoes. So here we are, number three. There's something in here for little me. 

Brian Derrick: I'm making a note. I'm going to watch that movie post election.

Was it good? Is it good? 

Ilana Glazer: No, it's kind of freaky and trying to um, like anthropomorphize robots. I would prefer you watch the Mr. Rogers episode. 

Brian Derrick: Okay. All right. I can watch that pre election. 

Glennis Meagher: Yes. [00:07:00] I just want to say I was in Pittsburgh two weeks ago and I got to see Mr. Rogers set. 

Brian Derrick: That's like Because 

Glennis Meagher: he's from Pittsburgh.

Brian Derrick: Yes. And it 

Glennis Meagher: took, 

Ilana Glazer: and they filmed it in Pittsburgh and they visited. All the working class people and working class families in Pittsburgh and at the time artists were working class to he'll go see the choir and this clarinet player in this dominoes episode was like, just whooping it up in his living room playing the clarinet and it's like, it's deeply sad and touching to watch Mr Rogers and see a time when working class people in this country were treated with dignity.

Brian Derrick: Wow. I mean, it's also incredible timing that we're having you on the pod right now because in the club, we all fan. Do 

Broad City: you know them? No, but in the club, we all fan what in the club. We all fan in [00:08:00] the club. We are all family. Are you racist? Oh my goodness. 

Ilana Glazer: Do you 

Brian Derrick: believe it? If you do not know what I'm talking about, viral TikTok trend, also iconic quote from Season two, I want to say it might have been three, but I'm guessing season two of broad city of which you are a co creator.

Um, and is like having this resurgence where, who's the first one that you saw? When did you know that this was happening and what is your take on the new context? 

Ilana Glazer: And a curb popped off. Okay. So my brother said the first person to do it was this really funny comedian, Maggie, something from Chicago. But I think what has been allowing Somebody's like, replay of it to pop off is this rewatch podcast series in the backdrop to sort of like brewing and stirring broad city in the backdrop.

And then, yeah, it's, it's been going viral and it's, it's very funny and it's very interesting feeling when I saw the, like the babies doing it, a. k. [00:09:00] a. Charlie XCX. Who's not, who's not the baby of babies, Troye Sivan is a baby, Sabrina Carpenter is a cultural baby. You know, I was like, LOL, the babies are doing this.

And then now, now older folks are doing it. Robert De Niro did it, it was really funny with Kerry Washington, that was hilarious. And then, then it like got insane because on SNL, Maya playing Maya, Maya Rudolph playing Kamala Harris did it. 

I saw that. I'm in 

Ilana Glazer: Kamala Harris. Herself actually did it with Usher, LOL.

Yeah. Which is like as big as Kamala Harris Usher. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I've been, I knew about Usher before I knew about Kamala Harris. Right. Um, and it both feels like incredibly heartwarming as well as aging. 

Hmm. 

Glennis Meagher: But hear me out. I feel like that sound is like centering the consciousness of the election right now in that, like, we want everyone to feel safe and [00:10:00] secure and fair in this country.

And I know like, you know, in the club we all feel that. We all fam is like, you know, whatever. But it's like, that's what we want in this country. We want everyone to feel good. 

Yeah. So I mean, 

Glennis Meagher: as many people as possible, 

Ilana Glazer: for sure. And, and even, you know, people who don't believe I should have rights and that my rights should be taken away.

I want them to have their basic needs met, right? Because I think the fact I think that's actually what's driving so much hate is basic needs not being met. Oh, it's really hard. It 

is. 

Ilana Glazer: It 

Brian Derrick: is such a good sort of vehicle to discuss how pop culture moments and references are actually driving political conversations, and that's something that the two of you have mastered through Generator Collective.

So, anchor us in a moment in [00:11:00] time, let's rewind, and how did this start? What was the purpose at the outset? And what does Generator Collective look like and mean to you right now? 

Ilana Glazer: So Generator Collective, I'm going to like actually work backwards. Generator Collective is me and Glennis's organization. And our main mode right now is political messaging.

We make really good political messaging that doesn't patronize or pander to our audience targeting Gen Z and millennials. And I would say women and queer Gen Z and millennials is our target audience. So that's like our main thing right now. We create these cheat sheets

Because it's like sadly civic engagement is Really hard designed to be complicated in order to hoard power among a powerful minority So making shit like cheat sheets, which we do these web series cheat sheet for the voting booth and we do cheat sheets for key elections in battleground states [00:12:00] It's just like, I know it's hard and it's like kind of shameful that it's so hard.

Just take these into the voting booth, share them. And these are, you know, the progressives, the most progressive candidates 

Broad City: you can elect right now. Alyssa Slotkin, a Congresswoman representing Michigan is now running for U. S. Senate. We need to elect her because her opponent is some shitty old white dude who opposes abortion and IVF, which only makes sense if you're a piece of shit.

But 

Ilana Glazer: we, we founded Generator in 2016 as Generator Collective. Have been, you know, I've been in conversation with former Attorney General Eric Holder, under Obama, Gloria Steinem, ever heard of her? Amanda Wynn, incredible. Jumaane Williams, New York's public advocate, Cynthia Nixon, when she was running against Trump.

Quomo, forget it. I don't even need to say his fucking name, you know, and those conversations have been incredible. And also, you know, as a comedian, I'm, I'm, I invite being laughed at. So I don't care if I don't know shit and I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold long. I remember when Cynthia Nixon was like, [00:13:00] Andrea, Teacher Cousins.

And I was like, excuse me? Because like, they're, Andrea Stewart Cousins, because like the word cousins threw me and like isn't a name in my mind. So I'm just like, the hell are you talking about? You know, so I'm just like, I don't care. You can laugh at me. I don't know shit. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on.

And in fact, I actually don't think it's a coincidence. I'm like, what? Relatively smart and can put two and two together. And yet, you know, why don't, why isn't it easier to get a cheat sheet for voting and for civic engagement? So we put an answer to that. So in conversation and digital messaging, and we throw dance parties as well, which we're having one this Thursday, which we'll talk about more later, where you can dance, but then you can also have like an easy, graspable, accessible opportunity to sign up to phone bank, canvas, or other voter empowerment volunteer opportunities.

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, we really think that culture and policy hinge, and we tried to create a space for that. I'll go [00:14:00] even further back, Alana and I share a mutual best friend. We're also both like millennial women. So back in the days of like AIM in your dorm room, Our mutual best friend, this man named Matt, DJ Matty Stopes on the internet, he had this roommate he would tell me about, you know, and then we became friends when I moved to New York and we were at a dinner party.

And I, you know, come from the political space, government, and Trump had just been elected. And Alana turned to me and was like, how did this happen? Thinking that I knew everything because I worked on the Hill, uh, and I worked at a super pack, but we discovered there was this space of not knowing and feeling shame and not knowing.

And we knew we weren't the only ones. So when we created generator, we really wanted to create like a space first, you know, a physical space with our events that we threw, but then with COVID it pivoted to digital where people could feel like, okay, it's okay that I don't know, but I'm willing to learn and I want to be in an environment where I can learn.

And we built it from there. And it's been super, super fun. And we've learned a [00:15:00] lot. And here we are today. 

Brian Derrick: I love it. I've been a fan, literally. I think, I mean, that's how I originally met both of you. I'm waiting for a fact check. I think that that's correct was through generator. And I think that the work you all do is so incredibly important, not being done by anyone else in the way that you all are doing it and it takes such a special person, persons to be able to create content and messaging that understands the viewer in such an intense way.

And that's what you guys do better than anyone, right? You can get a bunch of really smart political consultants and academics in a room who know everything about the Constitution, but if they can't actually get people to give a shit, their knowledge is entirely wasted. And so you all being a bridge.

Into like the political world for everyday people who really care a lot and [00:16:00] haven't had the time or need to like navigate our incredibly complex system is, is so important. 

Ilana Glazer: And like, I'm, I'm thinking about it and it's like, for me, like my eyes glaze over when a certain type of person tells me information and I'm like, you're talking down to me.

This is just like, unfortunately, like the system is set up for me to feel spoken down to when someone like you speaks. But like, When women and queers are telling me about what's going on, it's just a little bit easier for me to take in, you know? So I find that like, that's sort of the, um, that's, the lens through which we're writing our messaging.

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. And a lot of our work, Brian, you know, this already, but aligns with what you're building and have built at oath, because especially over the last like two years, whether it be focusing on the midterms or even, you know, this election cycle with cheat sheet for the voting booth, like down ballot is so important.

Like it can't be every four years that we like, Slap people in the face and say, okay, wake up, you got to vote for a [00:17:00] president. Because I mean, people don't feel a real change necessarily when it's just the presidential election. So, you know, a lot of the work we do is like, how can we get the most progressive people elected at the local and state level to continue to build the true, like multiracial progressive democracy that like our country needs.

Wants and deserves, but it doesn't, it doesn't happen overnight. It's like a long, long build. So that's part of what we hope to do over the next decades. I mean, we talk about it all the time, Brian. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah, a hundred percent. And that's why, and that's why I love working with both of you.

So. As you just mentioned, Generator has a bit of a tilt towards a female audience, and you just recently released Babes, an iconic film, which I thought was both hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time. Thank you. Thank you. And [00:18:00] it's like super topical because this is the election of the gender divide.

I can't even tell you how many headlines we've seen about like men versus women. And if you look at the data, that's sort of borne out where you have Harris currently with a 53 to 41 percent lead over Trump in the female audience. And then you have Trump with a 54 to 40 percent lead. Over Harris with men.

What do we think is driving this? Some of it's obvious, maybe some of it's not. And like, is, is this tired? Are we, are we, are we over this? Like, 

Ilana Glazer: do you guys believe this? Great question. I am struggling to, I'm like, I feel like men who'd vote for Trump want to be heard on these stupid 

Glennis Meagher: polls. Hmm. Well, we've talked about this a lot on the pod of like, who actually answers the phone calls for the polls?

Who are they actually reaching? What does it actually mean? But I, you [00:19:00] know, I do think there is, at least for me in my consciousness, I have this vision of who the Trump voter is. And it's like a white male who doesn't want women to have access to reproductive rights. Is that accurate? Is that accurate? I don't know.

Like, I think that I've created a caricature of who the Trump voter is. And I think this is a question we're asking ourselves is, is that correct? 

Ilana Glazer: I mean, I think that's the Trump voter. Is that really, you know, a quarter of the American population? That's the thing I don't quite believe. Women who aren't voting for Kamala, I don't think typically want to be known either.

I don't know. I have, I have no idea, but it just sounds, it sounds like kind of. I think a lot of men don't like Trump because he's such an embarrassing example of masculinity. Um, so that's why that surprises me. 

Brian Derrick: I think that there is a real divide here, or like a real difference in behavior, [00:20:00] but I think it's overhyped because it's a sexier media narrative than other potential fault lines.

Like, the best predictor currently of your voting behavior is is education level. Like we are really split. The parties are really split right now across college educated, non college educated with Democrats having this like huge swing towards a more educated audience and the inverse happening for the Republican party.

That's not as gonna generate as many headlines. That's not a sexy narrative. It's harder to get like sort of good quotes about that from people because they don't have as much like such loaded perceptions about. Like education status as they do gender, in my opinion. So it's just not talked about. 

Glennis Meagher: Agree.

We're seeing now over the last, you know, we were talking about this last week in the pod or on the pod about how, you know, Kamala Harris with the different podcast appearances that she's making is trying to close that [00:21:00] margin or at least reach the audiences that she wouldn't have on traditional media, whether it be Alex Cooper and call her daddy, Joe Rogan never happened.

Brian Derrick: Oh yeah. 

Glennis Meagher: By the way. Which I forgot about. 

Brian Derrick: I forgot. I forgot. 

Glennis Meagher: But there was, there was online murmuring that that could potentially happen, but now with what, less than two weeks left, I don't see it happening. Did you hear this Alana? That Hamileh Harris was like, it was rumored that she was going to go on the Joe Rogan podcast, which has about a hundred.

And 14 million weekly listeners. No, girl. No, that's insane. No, 14. 14 

Brian Derrick: million? 14 million. 14 million, whatever. That would be 

Ilana Glazer: one out of three Americans. Don't 

Brian Derrick: give him that power. 

Ilana Glazer: Listening to Joe Rogan. Weekly. 14 million is plenty, but one 

Glennis Meagher: 14 

Ilana Glazer: is like, almost. 

Glennis Meagher: I'm just thinking about, uh, generators. Stats, you know, it's just stuck in my head 

Brian Derrick: if JD Vance ever becomes president, it will be 114 because we will all be required to tune in.

We will [00:22:00] have like air pods drilled in every day until we get our daily dose of Joe Rogan indoctrination. 

Ilana Glazer: Oh, I've been really having trouble even thinking about it, entertaining this option at all. I'm blown away to hear you even have that fantasy, that nightmarish fantasy of JD Vance as president. 

Brian Derrick: I mean, Donald Trump is really, is aging quickly, I will say.

Ilana Glazer: Very quickly. 

Brian Derrick: Like, do we think he's going to finish a four year term? 

Ilana Glazer: No. 

Brian Derrick: No, no. That's why 

Ilana Glazer: I feel like he's bombing the audition too, on purpose, but like we're in such a jokey sort of situation. Satirical state that it's like working in his favor or whatever, but, um, yeah, J. D. Vance would be, it's bad. It's really crazy.

Brian Derrick: Yeah. I, I, I think that Vance is a good example of the challenge for Trump in trying to. win back this critical audience for him. If there is this gender divide, if we accept that [00:23:00] there is this like gap right now in how the candidates are perceived, the goal is to lose by less. In the demographic that you're going to lose.

So if you're Harris, you need to win over just a few extra percentage points of men, not necessarily majority, right? Cause you can win. You can run up the score with women and the opposite is true for Trump. And Vance makes that, I think much harder for Trump among women, because he is. such a villain and has made so many ridiculous and offensive and aggressive comments about women and childless cat ladies and older women and child care and just like preposterous things whereas Walls does the opposite.

For Harris. Yeah. Where Rawls actually helps with a young male demographic. He's a football coach. He's whatever. He's a nice 

Ilana Glazer: dad. Yeah. 

Brian Derrick: They're terrified of him. 

Ilana Glazer: Yeah. You guys, you know who JD Vance looks very much like? Oh no. An eerie resemblance [00:24:00] to the, um, like sexually abusive Duggar brother? Right? Oh my god.

I forgot about. They look so alike. I haven't. I have not let the Duggars go. Wait, I'm googling. So JD Vance. 

Brian Derrick: Duggar mugshot. Yeah, he looks literally 

Ilana Glazer: exactly like him. Let's put that out there. Oh my god. 

Brian Derrick: Wait, his courtroom sketch is literally J. D. Vance's future presidential portrait in the worst timeline. It looks just like him.

Ilana Glazer: The body is the soul. And when people look alike, their spirits are like pretty similar. And I'm just like, he might as well have been on the Duggars, J. D. Vance, because he's giving. 

Glennis Meagher: He is giving. J. D. Vance is one of the most unlikable, least charismatic political candidates of all time. Potentially. You know what I'm confused about is that, and we've talked about this again on the pod before, of how Trump is wishy washy with the IVF, with the abortion, even though, what is it, one, uh, in three women in America live [00:25:00] on, lives under a Donald Trump abortion ban, which is, you know, like six weeks.

He called himself on Fox News, which by the way, it was like a town hall that was like, women were chosen to be there, all full of supporters, that he is the father. I believe 

Donald Trump: that's what this is about. Oh, I want to talk about IVF. I'm the father. I'm the father of IVF. I'm the father of IVF, so I want to 

Fox News Town Hall Question: hear this question.

Um, so I'm the mother of three small children. And I have many friends that have struggled with fertility issues over the years while trying to grow their families. And while they're pro life, they're very concerned that the abortion bans will affect their ability to access IVF and other fertility treatments.

Donald Trump: So, I got a call from Katie Britt. A young, just a fantastically attractive person from Alabama. She's a senator and she called me up like emergency, emergency. Because an Alabama judge had ruled that the IVF clinics were illegal and they have to be closed down. 

Brian Derrick: Okay. A lot to unpack there. Yeah. Let's get [00:26:00] into it.

Number one, why aren't we seeing Katie Britt state of the union clips in ads? Do you guys remember that? Katie Britt is the woman who gave the Handmaid's Tale State of the Union rebuttal. Wait, I did 

Glennis Meagher: not put that together. 

Brian Derrick: Yes, that's who he's referencing. 

Glennis Meagher: Like the attractive woman? She's fantastically 

Brian Derrick: attractive.

She was attractive. 

We see you. 

Ilana Glazer: We hear you. We see, smell you. The really unfortunate thing about Trump remains how naturally funny he is, especially with the, I mean, it's like total brown face. It's makeup. It's like, it's beyond the concealer is too dark. It's bronzer as foundation. 

That 

Ilana Glazer: as like literal clown garb and then his delivery.

It's like, it's so unfortunate. And I do want to chide you guys for even sharing the clip because I find that giving him any airtime, he's, he's unfortunately very [00:27:00] funny, literally evil, sadistic, psychotic, funny. Coming from you, that's crazy to me. It sucks, it sucks. He said three times he was waiting to say the talking point, I'm the father of IVF, which what does that mean?

You invented it? That's what that would mean? Right. Like that doesn't, what does this even mean? It would mean he's the inventor, you know, it doesn't even make sense, it's, it's so No, it 

Glennis Meagher: doesn't. No, it doesn't make sense. Like, and it's much more benign when Al Gore says he invented the internet, you know?

It's like, that's funny. Oh, you're saying he invented the internet? Yeah, he didn't notice. I love Al Gore. Yeah. I mean we'd be living in different America. Oh well. Al Gore! 

Brian Derrick: Well, not a shit egg, fun vibes only. Okay, on the politics of it all, Glennis, to your point, I would add that it's worse than being wishy washy because I think that wishy washy is like, I'm going to vote one way this day and then next year I'm going to vote a different way or something.

His campaign position is just [00:28:00] completely divorced from what his actual policy position is on the issue. And he has a very clear policy position, um, that he's shown he will take steps to advance. And that's a national abortion ban. And that also includes if you erode the right to abortion through things like Fetal personhood laws, you will erase access to IVF period.

You can't actually have your cake and eat it too. And so then you have like the campaign position, which is if I say that my FDA is going to strike down access to abortion medication. I'm going to lose. And if I say that these far right groups have a stranglehold over Project 2025 and my future administration and are going to roll back access across the country, I'm going to lose.

Like, that's why you have this massive gap between policy position, static, and campaign position, Fake, you know, 

Glennis Meagher: and [00:29:00] also just personality. Like what I find really difficult to reconcile is that like from all, you know, everything Donald Trump says and does and JD and a bunch of the men in that circle, I just get the vibe because of what they say that they just hate women.

They just hate women. Whether it goes back to like Donald Trump saying, he's going to grab a woman by the pussy and in the locker room to today where he was, I guess, hot, not hot. Mike would Like he was at a rally with, uh, steel workers saying something derogatory about women and male leadership in the Republican party and female leadership, quite frankly, respect or like women.

And that is just the reality. And that manifests in legislation. It manifests in how they talk about women, how they treat women, how they view women in this country. And I don't know when or how that's going to change

what's going on in people's group chats. 

Brian Derrick: What is going on in my group chat? I'll tell you 

Glennis Meagher: what's going on in mine. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. Hit me. 

Glennis Meagher: We have a dance party [00:30:00] happening in Brooklyn. That's right. On Thursday. Period. That people should come to this Thursday. It is at Little Field in Gowanus. Ever been there? And it's going to be super fun.

Alana, Brian. 

Brian Derrick: It's the democracy ball. 

Glennis Meagher: Brandon, Plasma. That's right. Luis Fernando. And all proceeds go to Benefit One PA, which is an amazing organization out of Pennsylvania that is organizing voters. That's right. This 

Ilana Glazer: Thursday, October 24th at Littlefield NYC in Brooklyn. You got a democracy ball And we're gonna be dancing and people can meet Malcolm Kenyatta This is all about phone banking signing up for phone banking in Pennsylvania and they can meet one of the candidates for whom they will be Dancing and phone banking or not a who's running for auditor general Brian, you're an excellent dancer.

Brian Derrick: Oh, 

Ilana Glazer: I wouldn't 

Brian Derrick: say excellent, but I would say enthusiastic. And that's really the 

Ilana Glazer: [00:31:00] metric. I'm not like, look at those moves. I'm like, look at his enthusiasm. 

Brian Derrick: He's trying. We last had our dance party or I last had a dance party with y'all. I think it was pre 2022. Midterm cycle. Didn't we do one of these at knock down?

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. 

Brian Derrick: Or was that in 2023? 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. I forgot about that. That was 2022. 

Brian Derrick: We had a blast. I'm dabbing audio only people. We had so much fun. So you don't want to miss it. Definitely go get a ticket immediately. 

Glennis Meagher: 1000%. And like, it is just good to move your body and feel some joy and optimism and that and community.

Like the new cycle is so exhausting. This election is very stressful. Let's just dance it out. That's right. That's exactly right. 

Ilana Glazer: Glennis, depending on, I know you're like just jetting from swing. Swing state to swing state, but if you are able to make it, I request a high tight pony. Oh! [00:32:00] A high tight pony?

Because I only have poofs. So when I get the chance to like swing somebody else's pony, like that's my jam. So we'll see if you make it. 

Glennis Meagher: All right. So come to Littlefield, 8 p. m. Brooklyn. I think doors are at 7 actually, if you want to come and warm up before the party starts. And maybe I'll have a high ponytail.

Like my soccer days. 

Ilana Glazer: Um, yeah. And let's just, you're so right, Gwyneth, let's just fucking move. Let's like get that like scary vibrations off and sign up to fund bank with not for democracy. They're so fucking cute, actor founded, and it's going to be a great way to like bond with people that you will be virtually fund banking with in the coming two weeks.

So let's just, Let's dance. 

Brian Derrick: Do you know what I'm gonna pick up on my way to Littlefield? 

Ilana Glazer: What? A Big Mac. 

Brian Derrick: Prepared by a professional. Not. A burger? By a giant man baby who's pretending That's been in 

Ilana Glazer: the group chat, yeah. That has been in the group chat. 

Brian Derrick: What do you mean? [00:33:00] Him in the 

Ilana Glazer: apron? 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. Yes. Wait, that's not 

Ilana Glazer: AI though, right?

No, it's real. No, no, no, no. 

Brian Derrick: It was real. Yeah. But there was an AI version that someone else made. That was very scary looking. Yeah. What were our thoughts on that? I feel like the internet had a field day. Yeah. 

Glennis Meagher: It's just like emblematic. He's such a poser. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah, he's a 

Ilana Glazer: fraud, but I think again, like I just, um, any sharing of him, he's like such a funny, unsuspecting, unselfaware clown.

I'm just like, don't share it. Don't share it. Don't share it. Only share the scary pictures with headlines for the plans he has for your body if he gets elected. Otherwise it was funny. 

Brian Derrick: Well, that was the only takeaway, the only takeaway from the whole thing. And what every headline should have been is Trump will not say whether he supports raising the federal minimum wage from 7 a fucking hour, because 75 percent of Americans think that it should be increased.

And he would not answer the question and no one's asked him since. And I'm [00:34:00] like, that was the whole story is he worked at McDonald's and even standing there next to people who couldn't feed their families, making. The federal minimum wage in most places still couldn't say that he thinks deservers, that he thinks workers deserve a fair wage.

That's insane. 

Ilana Glazer: He's a criminal. 

Brian Derrick: Oh, what else? I'm avoiding. I have 

Glennis Meagher: to make an announcement. 

Brian Derrick: Okay. 

Glennis Meagher: Lady Gaga, she's releasing a single called disease on, October 24th, 25th. So this is a gift that's, this is a gift for like someone like me who is just like holding on for dear life to get a Gaga Single. 

Brian Derrick: True.

She's joyful. She's, she's changing the conversation. She said, we're moving on. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. It was kind like Chromatica coming out during Covid. Yeah. It was like, okay, 

Brian Derrick: from Joker. She's a healer. 

Glennis Meagher: Love her. What else? Alana, what's popping off in your group chat? What's going on in the 

Ilana Glazer: world? [00:35:00] Um, like at the club has been pretty, uh, consuming, um, in a group chats.

My mom called me after the SNL one. She was like, is hello is in the club. We are all family, something from The Shell? And I was like, hey mom, yes, it's from Broad City. My dad literally, this is so fucking cute, I like could cry, it breaks my heart. He rewatches Broad City and takes notes on legal pads.

That's so sweet. It's so sweet. I, like, genuinely die and can't even think about it too long, or I will in a lot of years. What does he do with the legal pads? He, like, puts them in a blank cabinet, like, in just hanging folders. And I'm like, girl, don't you know episode, I think, 306 with Blake Griffin? Like, you know it better than I do.

But my mom doesn't. 

Glennis Meagher: Um. You know, it was just on my for you page before we hopped on was the scene you have with RuPaul at the sushi 

Brian Derrick: spot. Which one? Sushi Mambo! Sushi [00:36:00] Mambo!

Ilana Glazer: It was so sweet. You like turn around and you're like, actually? 

Brian Derrick: Oh, oh my god, when he's not gonna hire you. like, 

Ilana Glazer: does he do a slow clap? He's like, you're hired. He's so fucking cute. Oh my god, I die. And also he says, how tall are you? Five, two, and then presses my juifro down. He's like, five, one and a half. So, like, you're this tall.

Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, I saw Miss Abby Jacobson this weekend. And we were giggling about it. We thought, we think it's very cute. She was really nice. Yeah, it's nice. 

Glennis Meagher: Broad City was such a moment in time for like Millennials, especially and like, yeah, for it to be now, uh, like for Gen Z to really be embracing the show.

It's very validating. 

Ilana Glazer: Yeah, I may, may it be a sign from the universe that things are changing. That we'll get a President Kamala Harris. [00:37:00] 

Brian Derrick: Period. Alana, thank you so much for coming on and for the work that you do every day to engage more Americans in our democracy. Uh, we are all better off for it and we will see you on Thursday to dance our 

Ilana Glazer: asses off.

for having me. I love you both very much. I love, we've really been, well, Glennis, you and I have been working together every day for eight years, but Brian, it's been really fun to organize with you and with Jake Wilson and Benj Pasek and Barbie for Harris and Not For Democracy and Plasma and Luis Fernando, you know, to just grow our group has been really fun.

And thanks for having me. I fear you might not be able to get rid of me. Oh, no, I'll leave. I'll leave. Um, thank you guys.

Brian Derrick: All eyes are on the presidential campaigns, but President Biden is still at it and [00:38:00] he's determined to use every day in office to Get as much done as he can. And that continued this past week when he announced an additional 4. 5 billion in student debt cancellation for over 60, 000 borrowers through the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program.

And this is probably my favorite program in his, uh, efforts to forgive student loans, because it really starts with the people who have devoted their life in some way to public service, whether as like teachers are working for the government or something else. And so forgiving tens of thousands of dollars for, for example, a kindergarten teacher who's been paying her loans for 12 years is a major, major win that should be celebrated because that's going to have Rebounding impacts, you know?

Yes. 

Glennis Meagher: It is extremely helpful. 

Brian Derrick: So thank you. President Biden and vice president Harris for continuing to keep your promise. 

Glennis Meagher: Thank you. Those are all the vibes this week. Thank you so much [00:39:00] to Alana for joining us and thank you for listening. We are less than two weeks away. You know, we always say, turn your anxious feelings into action, but we're here for you to let us know how you're doing too.

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