JD Vance Only Has Snake Oil to Sell

We check in on the vibes of the Vice Presidential debate between Governor Tim Walz and Ohio Senator JD Vance. Rachel Maddow may have said it best when she said, "one was smooth, the other won." 

That's because, while to some, JD Vance came off as smooth - he lied about a number of issues including on immigration, healthcare, climate and energy. He also failed to definitively say that he'd honor the results of a free and fair election. 

Meanwhile, Tim Walz was strong on gun safety, reproductive rights, healthcare, democracy and more. 

Stay tuned for a round of it's giving, a group chat chat, and a good vibe goodbye. 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 0:38 VP Debate
• 18:13 It's Giving
• 22:14 GROUP CHAT
• 31:20 Good Vibe Goodbye

Transcript

Brian Derrick: [00:00:00] No snake oil. No Russian Facebook ads. Just vibes. This is Vibes Only, the podcast that checks the vibes of American politics every week. And the vibes this week. 

Rachel Maddow: A cordial debate between these two men. I think the big picture takeaway from this is that one of these candidates is much slicker than the other, is a much more practiced kind of performance.

Professional debate style speaker and the other candidate won. 

Brian Derrick: We're gonna break down what we just saw in the VP debate between Governor Walls and JD Vance 

Glennis Meagher: and stick around for an it's giving to hear what's happening in our group chats, and for a good vibe, goodbye. Let's get into it. 

Brian Derrick: Well, in the practice round of croquet, the thing that doesn't matter in the thing that doesn't matter.

Glennis Meagher: Hmm. 

Brian Derrick: Right. It ended up not mattering. . 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. 

Brian Derrick: Kind of. What'd you think? 

Glennis Meagher: Not much. I, you know, when I am watching it debate, I like to text my non-political friends who I know will [00:01:00] watch just because they like to, and I check their vibe and everyone was like, JD Vance seems slimy. JD Vance is a good debater.

He's a good talking head. He could 

Brian Derrick: sell you a bottle of salt water while you're dying of thirst. He really could. 

Glennis Meagher: Mm hmm. And that was evident. And I think Tim Walz did what he needed to do. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. My takeaway, more so than a winner or loser, is that debates in general do not matter, with the Joe Biden debate being an obvious exception to that rule, and vice presidential debates being even less consequential in presidential elections.

A lot of people watched the Kamala Trump matchup, like over 60 million. My guess. Crazy. It's do you have a guess for how many we'll, we'll get ratings tomorrow, but 

Glennis Meagher: 19 million. 

Brian Derrick: That's solid. I'm probably going to say like 30 

Glennis Meagher: because 

Brian Derrick: I think that these guys have been like [00:02:00] visible more because of Vance's controversial comments and, and walls sort of personality.

Yeah, I think that walls did enough. I was, We might have already talked about this. I was on the news this past weekend talking about this debate, and there really was no upside for Walls. He's incredibly popular for a vice presidential candidate, and there was pretty much no risk. Going in for Vance because he's as unpopular as one can possibly be.

He's so disliked. And so as long as he didn't like show up, vomit and stab walls, then he would like honestly leave with better ratings than he came in with. The fact that he could simultaneously think and talk helped him do a little bit more than that probably, but regardless, it's not gonna, it really would be shocking to me if it moves the needle for two people that were not present at the debate tonight.

Glennis Meagher: Right. JD just read to me like a [00:03:00] used car salesman and the worst kind to your point of him being able to sell anything. And he just was full of shit. And Tim Walz, you know, kind of stuck to his, his points and had some, I wish I saw more Tim Walz energy than I did see, but I think that, you know, two weeks or how much debate prep he had, he probably was very like structured in how he wanted to present himself.

Brian Derrick: Yeah, I agree. I mean, it takes a special kind of person. To lie without blinking incessantly and Donald Trump is that kind of person we've talked about on the podcast before where he, it doesn't even hit the part of the brain that for the rest of us, when we lie, we have to like, actively turn off or to, to, to do it well, whatever.

Like Vance has the same quality when he's lying. He knows he's a smart guy. I do believe he's very smart. He knows that he's lying when he's talking about [00:04:00] energy consumption. Crazy. That was not energy production being down in and like, he knows that he's lying when he's talking about the made up sort of processes and numbers around immigration.

He knows that he's lying when he presented the numbers the way that he did around gun violence. He knew that he was misleading if I'm being as generous as possible. And in some of those situations, just outright lying. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, 

Brian Derrick: it didn't. Face him even a little bit. 

Glennis Meagher: I think you're also talking about a core characteristic of a sociopath can lie and not feel any sort of, uh, consciousness around it.

But were there any moments in the debate that really stood out to you as like, moments. 

Brian Derrick: And that is sort of what this is about in 2024 these days, right? It is like what is going to be seen by not the 30 million people that watched, but the [00:05:00] hundred million, they're going to see it on a in clips. I think that for Vance, for me, it's hard to even pin Vance down on individualized because.

There were a lot, but I would say his moment around the Affordable Care Act, where he almost brought himself to say that his own family gets health care through the Affordable Care Act, but instead said during Trump's presidency, that did stick out to me because I thought that Walls really held him to account when he was like, The only reason that we still have the Affordable Care Act is because Democrats fought against it.

Tim Walz: Those of you listening, this is critical to you. Now Donald Trump all of a sudden wants to go back and remember this. He ran on the first thing he was going to do on day one was to repeal Obamacare. On day one, he tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA. He signed on to a lawsuit. To repeal the ACA, but lost it to Supreme court.

And he would have [00:06:00] repealed the ACA had it not been for the courage of John McCain to save that bill. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. That, that iconic thumbs down to prevent Trump from ripping it away. Um, 

Glennis Meagher: yeah. 

Brian Derrick: What about you? 

Glennis Meagher: I always like, I, well, so I clocked when J. D. Vance, I don't know if you did also, cause you, didn't you go to Catholic school?

Brian Derrick: Yep. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. When he was like, Christ have mercy. Did you hear that? 

Brian Derrick: I 

Glennis Meagher: did. I was like, I'm, I saw what he was trying to do. He was trying to give a hat to tat tip to the Christians watching. And then Tim Walls one upped him by quoting the Bible. So I like to keep tabs on how these. These, these politicians are trying to talk about religion in their, in a, either a totally alternative and conservative way or a more human way.

Brian Derrick: It was an interesting dynamic that both of them were incentivized to agree with each other a lot. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. 

Brian Derrick: I think that like maybe that's part of both [00:07:00] of their like nonpolitical natures, like they're both Midwestern, like I identify, they're like, they're just like sort of agreeable people potentially. But more so, I think Vance came in knowing that he had to, like, act like a normal person.

He had to, like, play this role of, like, non podcast, childless cat ladies, women over 50. Only exist to rear other people's children. Like, like the creepy, weird guy that he has been for the last three years in his guy liner in these podcasts, zoom rooms, he's trying to distance himself from. And so he came in trying to be like, Hey, I'm, I can get along.

I'm a smart guy. I can, I'm, you know what I mean? And he was like going to try to present himself as not this like Doer, angry. Who's the guy that we always see screaming at reporters? 

Glennis Meagher: We saw it a little bit though when he got shut [00:08:00] up by the moderators and then he started shaking. You could see it. It was like, he was like, oh my god, women are trying to stop me from talking.

And he like lost his school a little bit. I was like, keep going. jd. 

Brian Derrick: The, the, the rules were that you weren't gonna fact check. I do wanna see, I want someone to like put together a clip. Do you remember from Scary Movie three? 

Glennis Meagher: Stop me. Classic. 

Brian Derrick: With, it's classic with the, uh, the, uh, the state trooper's hat getting bigger and bigger and bigger every time 

Glennis Meagher: they cut back to 

Brian Derrick: the hat.

Oh my God. And that is. These Republicans, when it comes to the number of elite of undocumented immigrants that they say are in the country where it started at the beginning of the cycle at like 10 million 

Rachel Maddow: and then 

Brian Derrick: mid cycle, they were like, there's 15 million of them. And then at the first debate, Trump said there were 20 million and said it was more than the population of New York.

And then in this debate, J. D. Vance said there's 25 million out of frame. [00:09:00] And I'm like, wait, what is going on? They just like have to scare you more and more and more and more and more. Like literally by election day, we might have like a 50% Illegal immigrant population in the United States fighting you for a chicken bone outside of Popeye's like 

Glennis Meagher: sanity, because that's the only 

Brian Derrick: thing that you're going to be allowed to eat.

Like it's crazy. 

Glennis Meagher: That was the one thing that did worry about me. And then maybe we can talk about some of the issue stuff a little bit. Was that because he is such a smooth talker and you have to have some grounding in, in the facts and reality to know that he's. So full of shit and just spinning and spinning and using his Yale law degree and his debate skills to good use that if you know that you might believe him and trust him because he's a good speaker.

So that did worry me a little bit, but then I also, you know, remembered that we can take them down on the internet. Like we have for the last three months for, you know, from never Trump guy to saying that women [00:10:00] who don't have children are sociopaths like, okay, JD. 

Brian Derrick: Right. Coming, coming 

Glennis Meagher: for cat ladies. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah.

Agreed. And I honestly think that the super slick, smooth talker routine doesn't play as well with the specific voters that Vance needs to be. winning over. 

Glennis Meagher: You know what shocked me? 

Brian Derrick: Tell me 

Glennis Meagher: when JD Vance was like, I'm 40. I was shocked to learn that he was 40 years old. I thought he was like 55. I was truly shocked.

Like you're too evil for 40. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah, he's stuffed a lot of evil into that beard. Yeah, for hating the left and being part of this anti DEI craze and all these made up things around wokeism and censorship. He loves to play identity politics. He loves that. [00:11:00] to play identity politics. He's out here really working in his socioeconomic status, his wife, who's a person of color, his, the ages of his like specific children.

And like, I don't, I feel like the way that he, it's not, it's not saying those things. Cause obviously those are very normal, innocuous things to talk about. But like, It's the timing and the framing of when you use them to try to use it as a political weapon. That's what I think is icky about him in addition to, you know, everything else.

Glennis Meagher: Everything else, like how he became a politician, who funds him, his lack of backbone, his lack of moral compass. 

Brian Derrick: We have to talk about Walls. We're not electing someone to be debater in chief. We're electing somebody who will be able to pull some Republicans into their office, sit them down, and get them to vote on a bipartisan gun bill, or to save a healthcare bill that's in jeopardy, or something like that.

And that is what Tim Walls has shown he can do time and time again as governor. I [00:12:00] think that he had some really great moments. Probably my favorite of the night was We are pro women. We are pro freedom. 

Glennis Meagher: Yes. Agree. I'm going 

Tim Walz: to respond on the, on the pro abortion piece of that. No, we're not. We're pro women.

We're pro freedom to make your own choice. We know what the implications are to not be that. Women having miscarriages. Women not getting the care. Physicians feeling like they may be prosecuted for providing that care. 

Brian Derrick: I think that the whole repro section he really crushed. Um, he clearly feels so passionately about it.

And he had. The material at the ready, he understands the policy. He had the personal narratives to weave into it, to understand the stakes of these issues. And I thought that he had just such a strong command of the stage and did at the same time as making a strong case for himself and for vice president Harris was defining Vance and how.

bad his policies are on the issue. 

Glennis Meagher: Tim Walz is [00:13:00] strong on guns. He mentioned that he changed his position on guns after he met with Sandy Hook parents. And that is what you want to see in a politician. And I hope that people who might have not been sold on the Harris Walz ticket can see the human element of Tim Walz and how he can change positions based on human experiences and like centering basic human rights.

And not just because the NRA backs you. He also said something that I thought was powerful, which is 

Tim Walz: I want to be very careful. This idea of stigmatizing mental health, just because you have a mental health issue, doesn't mean you're violent. And I think what we end up doing is we start looking for a scapegoat.

Sometimes it just is the guns. It's just the guns. And, and there are things that you can do about it. 

Glennis Meagher: It's just the guns. 

Tim Walz: Yeah. I thought that 

Glennis Meagher: was extremely powerful and worth clipping and sharing like super far on the internet because I think that had to be said out loud. You're always blaming mental health on gun violence and sometimes it's just the fact [00:14:00] that you can't even access a gun in the first place.

Brian Derrick: Right. Yeah. And calling attention to the threat that guns pose to everyone. He obviously spoke about. Schools in particular and how it had personally affected his family, 

Rachel Maddow: but 

Brian Derrick: also saying the people who die by guns, the most in Minnesota are people in rural communities shooting themselves. Like that is a huge part of gun violence.

And so it's not. A mental health boogeyman that is turning people into transgender school shooters that the right is trying to make right. Exactly. Right. I think that he absolutely humanized it. And that's what he did throughout the entire night. Hearing from Tim Walz, even when he did not, like, punch back at JD Vance in the way that I wanted or strain together the exact most eloquent argument ever.

Hearing from Tim Walz is hearing from an uncle that [00:15:00] you love, who you know, where you know that he feels everything that he is saying and he believes it wholeheartedly. I do not feel that way when I listen to JD Vance talk. He does not remind me of a family member. He does not remind me of a trusted teacher, advisor, neighbor, doctor.

He reminds me of someone who I'm in an adversarial relationship with, like a used car salesman. Who actively 

Glennis Meagher: wants to harm you. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. Totally. We're like, it's a zero sum game between us. Like, like, and You might talk real smooth, um, but that does not mean that you are looking out for me 

Glennis Meagher: or wear a pink tie to try and Appeal to women.

I don't know what that tie was. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah, like the the subconscious Appeal was not working. Yeah, I think that him nailed his ass to the wall on January 6th That was like a really strong finish where he's looked at him dead in the face and said [00:16:00] did Donald Trump You Lose the 2020 election and he wouldn't answer it and I was like, 

Tim Walz: whoa And it manifested itself because of Donald Trump's inability to say he is still saying he didn't lose the election I would just say that did he 

JD Vance: lose the 2020 election?

Tim, I'm focused on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation? That is a damning, that is a damning non answer. 

Glennis Meagher: He then should have said, why does Donald Trump need a new vice president in the first place? You know what I mean? He did. 

Tim Walz: He did.

Glennis Meagher: Oh, he did? 

Tim Walz: He literally said. When Mike Pence. made that decision to certify that election. That's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage. He lit. He absolutely said 

Brian Derrick: that. No, he did. He went there. He went there, which I thought was really great. And JD Vance tried to paper over the whole thing. Like only a snake oil salesman can by throwing it back on.

Harris and walls for [00:17:00] quote unquote censorship. And then he tried to say that it was a peaceful transfer of power because Trump got onto a helicopter on January 20th and skipped the inauguration. Like that is not the peaceful transfer of power. The question is not, do we have to violently remove? The former president from the white house.

It's, is there violence in this process of electing a new leader and transitioning to that person? And there was, and people died and people were injured. And, uh, one of our most sacrosanct monuments to our democracy was violated in like unspeakable 

Glennis Meagher: ways. 

Brian Derrick: We did not have a peaceful transfer of power. And so for him to get up there and try to defend it kind of is everything That at least a politico should need to know to know where this guy is on a scale of loser to democracy defender.

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. I don't know how he, how he goes to sleep at [00:18:00] night. Spineless, 

Brian Derrick: spineless, and with his baby monitor on silent. 

Glennis Meagher: Oh, right. Cause he doesn't care about that.

Brian Derrick: Well, if we didn't get enough JD Vance from the debate, we also Have more footage that's come out this week showing just how unhinged he really 

JD Vance: is. Right, there's just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really, really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially In America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives, you know, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less, uh, less mentally stable.

And of course, you talk about going on Twitter. Final point I'll make is you go on Twitter and almost always the people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids at home. [00:19:00] 

Brian Derrick: He 

JD Vance: looks like he's in 

Brian Derrick: a ska band. 

Glennis Meagher: Well, that's his guyliner, Brian. That's a lot. Don't attack his guyliner.

I just wish he would embrace it a little bit more. 

Brian Derrick: Wow, it's giving drinking the Kool Aid. Because if you think that you know who anybody is on Twitter, you're giving, like, Boomer, like, Silent Generation, like, you're looking at bots. Like, what are you talking about? 

Glennis Meagher: You're not actually talking to a human being.

It's also like, no offense to all of my friends who have children, but having children does not make you more mentally stable. It probably makes you less mentally stable because kids and children, infants, toddlers are out of control, unhinged. Little humans. 

Brian Derrick: The whole argument from Vance and the far right that people who don't have kids are not invested in our country or the future in general very much echoes to me the argument from the Christian right that if you're not Christian you have [00:20:00] no moral compass that if if there were if you didn't have the bible that you would just go around murdering and raping people and It's such a deep, deep egocentrism to not be able to see how other people could see the world differently and, like, behave from a different, like, code of ethics is mind blowing to me.

Glennis Meagher: And there's like complete a rasher of like all of the horrible individuals who have children, you know, who do horrible things to children or are criminals or, you know, it's just, they live in their own reality and they refuse to look at any other circumstance or situation as being like morally good or true.

And for that, they're full of shit. 100%. Kamala, however, she's ready to go again. She, she wants to take Trump for round two, 

Kamala Harris: but listen, also their debate should not be the last word. I'm trying to debate Donald Trump again. And[00:21:00] 

the American people have a right to hear us discuss the issue. And as you say here in Las Vegas, I'm all in. I'm all in. Even if my opponent is ready to fold. So, there you go. 

Glennis Meagher: Book, 

Brian Derrick: book, book, book, book, book, book. She's goading him. I love it. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, I love it. I was on a call yesterday, a briefing for creators with Senator Ed Markey, and he said something that Kamala Harris kind of becoming the candidate was like an antidepressant for the country just because she exudes so much.

Joy when she speaks and just seeing that and seeing her just having fun with it and also just being true to herself and be like, come for me. Like, let's do this. It's so energizing. Like, I see that. And I'm like, okay, let's go. Let's do that. 

Brian Derrick: Talk about having a stake in the future. [00:22:00] Like J. D. Vance likes to say, do you know who has a stake in the future?

Kamala Harris. Who's going to be around for the next 40 plus years, right? Versus that other guy who would be the oldest president in history.

What was in your group chat this week, Gigi? 

Glennis Meagher: Well, I want to say that at time of recording, today's a very special day for me. And it's in my group chat. Do you want to know why? 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. What is that? 

Glennis Meagher: It's Jimmy Carter's 100th birthday. 

Brian Derrick: It's Jimmy Carter's 100th birthday. Happy birthday, JJ. We have JJ and Gigi.

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. Happy birthday, Jimmy Carter. A great, great president. I hope he, I'll say my prayers for him to make it to the 15th when early voting starts. Is it the 15th? 

Brian Derrick: Is that when it is? I thought it was the 

Glennis Meagher: 7th. Let me just check. Let me just fact check this. 

Brian Derrick: Can you imagine if Jimmy Carter's last act was illegally casting a ballot while dead?

Glennis Meagher: Don't say that! Early voting, October 15th through November 1st. 

Brian Derrick: Okay. [00:23:00] 

Glennis Meagher: But you need to register by October 7th. Got it, got it, got it. So Jimmy Carter, check your voter registration you have till October 7th, make a voting plan. I'm assuming he will vote by mail. Anyway, happy birthday, Jimmy Carter. 

Brian Derrick: Happy birthday, Jimmy.

Super, super, that's a big deal. First president ever to make it to 100. When he was born, William Howard Tapp was still alive. 

Glennis Meagher: I just got chills. That's weird. 

Brian Derrick: Just like a really long time ago. I just read that this morning. 

Glennis Meagher: That's crazy. 

Brian Derrick: What else? SNL. 

Glennis Meagher: SNL's back. 

Brian Derrick: SNL is back with a vengeance. I was obsessed.

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, it was good. Do you know who's really back? 

Brian Derrick: Bowen Yang. Bowen Yang is back. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. I feel like 

Brian Derrick: Bowen Yang and Maya Rudolph, like, Really drove that whole up. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, it was, it felt good. I mean, I think like when we are so deeply in a presidential election cycle, they have so much material to work with, but like all the skits had me LOLing.

That feels like a cultural, like homecoming. 

Brian Derrick: The Biden [00:24:00] impression. It was 

Glennis Meagher: funny. 

Brian Derrick: Good. And by the way. Guess what? 

Dana Carvey: And by the way. The fact of the matter is. 

Glennis Meagher: It was great. You know, I have a, I have a deep fondness for Joe Biden and I felt like that impersonation was done lovingly. So. 

Brian Derrick: Oh, I mean roast them all like, yeah, I love it.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's fair game. 

Glennis Meagher: Something else that was, well, actually, can I tell the, tell the vibes only listeners the news that you broke to me? 

Brian Derrick: Yes. 

Glennis Meagher: So I'm sitting on my couch working or doing something late on whatever evening it was. Brian Derrick texts me, Eric Adams going to be indicted. Now I audibly gasped, although it wasn't a surprise, but I was still like, Oh man, it's happening.

Cut to an hour later, New York time, push notification, Eric Adams indicted. So Brian Derrick is the source for breaking news on mayoral indictments. 

Brian Derrick: Yes, I did get the heads up on that [00:25:00] one. It's not shocking because literally everyone in his administration has had their devices. taken, their homes raided, like, and so the signs have all been there.

And yet, it's a really big deal. A city mayor in New York has never been indicted before. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, it's extremely disappointing. 

Brian Derrick: And the charges are bad. Like, it's not a slap on the wrist situation. 

Glennis Meagher: You probably understand the charges better than I do, especially because it has to do with campaign finance. I'm going to tell you what I think the major one is and you tell me if I'm correct.

New York City has a matching program for donations. As I read the indictment, what Eric Adams did was solicit foreign money from the Turkish government to get a FDNY permit Quickly resolved for like a new building. And he's like, yeah, I'll do it for you. If you give me money, he took the money, you washed it, aka laundered it.

And then that money was matched by New York city taxpayer [00:26:00] dollars in the New York city, you know, campaign finance, which is, is quite like, I would say progressive to have matching funds that is supposed to make running for elected office in New York city, much more equitable. He then used that money to get matched by the city matching fund for his campaign.

Brian Derrick: That's correct. We would refer to this as like a straw man donor scheme where you have one source of funds in this case being like the Turkish government, but it could just be a billionaire in, in another situation. And then they're going to divvy that money up to credit it to individual donors. In order to work around campaign finance law.

And so it's 

Glennis Meagher: highly illegal, 

Brian Derrick: very illegal. And it's really bad because the public matching program in New York is awesome and is really important to letting people have access to funds that don't have wealthy networks of donors behind them. So it's a shame that it's being abused in this way, but it [00:27:00] also played a role in If I understand the investigation correctly in him getting caught too.

So like, I don't want this to erode people's trust in public matching funds as a concept. And I'm very afraid that particularly Republicans, though they don't have a ton of power in New York are going to try to like, so distrust in publicly funded elections, public matching funds because of it. But yes, that's you, you nailed, you nailed it on the head.

Very bad. Felony. Boo! Yeah. 

Glennis Meagher: Boo this man! Like, Eric Adams, get out. Kathy Hochul, get rid of him. 

Brian Derrick: Well, to your point, he's under tremendous pressure to resign. I personally don't see that happening unless something changes. Like, I think a lot of people see it as an admission of guilt, right, these days. And so, I don't think he's going to do it himself.

And so, the only person with the power to remove him would be Governor Hochul. 

Glennis Meagher: And then, you know who would be mayor? 

Brian Derrick: Jumaane Williams. 

Glennis Meagher: Jumaane Williams. 

Brian Derrick: The public advocate. 

Glennis Meagher: Who would be iconic. We would have the most regressive [00:28:00] mayor in the history of New York City. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah, and then there would be a special election within 90 days.

If he, if he resigned, if he's removed, yep, there'd be like a sprint special. 

Glennis Meagher: That's Snap. Yep. The oral election and then 

Brian Derrick: you know, who would, you know who's running? Either way, you know who's, who's running? Cuomo. Cuomo. Andrew, I'm be 

Glennis Meagher: Confused. with Chris Cuomo from News Nation. Not 

Brian Derrick: my buddy. No. 

Glennis Meagher: He would give it a go if he could.

Okay. Well more to come here. My favorite part of all of it though is Sabrina Carpenter, 

Brian Derrick: which by the way, I explain it to me because I've seen the headline 40 times and I refuse to read the story 'cause I just don't care. But what's the connection? I don't really 

Glennis Meagher: get it honestly. I got back I was upstate and I got back to Penn Station at 11pm on Sunday night and I walked in and it was like all of these women and like White platform heels.

And I was like, Oh yeah, the Sabrina Carpenter concert. But she said at her concert, because there is so Sabrina Carpenter shot one of her music videos, uh, and in New York city, um, church, uh, and there was like some backlash to [00:29:00] that. And because of the backlash and like the, some of the investigation that happened because of the music video, I think they uncovered like this whole corruption ring.

From her being able to shoot this music video in a church in like a diocese, which I mean, the video was provocative. So I think it, you know, the Catholics got mad. Um, and Sabrina said at her concert, she's like, I guess I got Eric. I didn't Eric Adams indicted. 

Brian Derrick: Your 

Glennis Meagher: pop music to Eric Adams indictment. 

Brian Derrick: I'll do a deep dive.

I, I'm like, what, what, how, what, what, what? We're, we're still in the era of like Mad Libs politics where you're just like pulling random names and actions out of a hat. And it's like, 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah, 

Brian Derrick: I can't. 

Glennis Meagher: It's like, uh, everyone should Google your birthday and Florida. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. It's like a 

Glennis Meagher: fun game, 

Brian Derrick: right? [00:30:00] That's literally how we find our Donald Trump headlines these days.

And. I do also just want to mention that Broadway legend and a friend, Gavin Creel passed away. The tributes have been everywhere on my social media from like mega celebs to just like all the New York Broadway fans. He was very recently in Into the Woods. People know him from Hello Dolly, from Hair. And also just from being like an incredible human being.

And I was really, really sad to hear of his passing. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. A very tragic loss for New York and the Broadway community. 

Brian Derrick: Agreed. Anything else for group chat? 

Glennis Meagher: Survivor, but I'm not caught up. 

Brian Derrick: You're not? No, I 

Glennis Meagher: have to find like the hour to focus. And it's Sunday 

Brian Derrick: nights. It's Sunday nights for me. 

Glennis Meagher: Okay. 

Brian Derrick: So if you can like get it together, that'd be awesome.

Glennis Meagher: I actually, you need, I still want to get you on the industry [00:31:00] train. I think you'd really like it. They had their season finale on Sunday. The best hours of television I've seen in a while. 

Brian Derrick: That's post election for me. 

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. And then you can binge it. You could do like all three seasons. And I've been a fan since season one, episode one.

I just want everyone to know because everyone's going to love this show. 

Brian Derrick: Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Glennis Meagher: Good vibe. Goodbye. Coming out of Georgia, a Georgia judge has, uh, struck down, he struck down the state's abortion ban, allowing care to resume. So Georgia had a six week abortion ban, which as we've said podcast is basically a total abortion ban. Most women don't even know they're pregnant at six weeks. So they would find out and then they would.

Realize they don't have access to care. So that's just good news. Objectively good news and just shows the power of judges. So obviously judges are appointed or elected depending on your state and what type of judge, whether it be a Supreme court judge or a district judge, but it's important to know who your judges are because they have the [00:32:00] power to Do things like this 

Brian Derrick: period.

Votes go to this baby. Let's go. 

Glennis Meagher: Those are all the vibes this week. Thanks for listening. We are 34 days away from this election or even fewer, depending on when you're listening, we are in the home stretch. How are you feeling? Let us know by sending us a text, by clicking the link in the episode description, or send us a voice memo at vibes at career newsroom.

com. We hope to hear from you until then. Thanks for listening. And we'll catch you again next week. 

Brian Derrick: Vibes Only is a production of Courier, a civic media company that protects and strengthens our democracy through credible, fact based journalism and seeks to create a more informed, engaged, and representative America.

Vibes Only is produced by Devin Maroney with support from Courier's Kyle Tharp, R. C. DiMezzo, Daniel Strausberger, and Lucy Ritzman. Video editing is by Shane Burkest. Tara McGowan is founder and publisher of [00:33:00] Courier.